{"id":668,"date":"2005-11-26T15:27:04","date_gmt":"2005-11-26T22:27:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/yokim.net\/text\/?p=668"},"modified":"2025-03-27T18:49:40","modified_gmt":"2025-03-27T18:49:40","slug":"tono-formal-y-%ec%96%b4%ed%88%ac","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/668","title":{"rendered":"tono formal y \uc5b4\ud22c"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>No s\u00e9 por qu\u00e9, pero el texto que sigue a continuaci\u00f3n del esquema s\u00f3lo no se ve correctamente en IE. (al parecer el primer p\u00e1rrafo desaparece tras la imagen)<br \/>\n\uc774\uc720\ub294 \ud30c\uc545\uc774 \uc548 \ub418\uace0 \uc788\uc9c0\ub9cc \ucc28\ud2b8 \ub2e4\uc74c\uc5d0 \ub098\uc624\ub294 \uae00\uc740 IE \uc5d0\uc11c \uc62c\ubc14\ub974\uac8c \ud45c\uc2dc\uac00 \uc548 \ub428. (\uccab \ubb38\ub2e8\uc774 \uc774\ubbf8\uc9c0 \ub4a4\ub85c \ubc00\uccd0\ub098\ub294 \ub4ef)<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/yokim.net\/i\/kiwa_white_paper_translation.png\" width=\"397\" height=\"317\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<div style=\"float:left;width:55%\">\nEn <a href=\"http:\/\/kiwa.org\">KIWA<\/a> sacaron un informe blanco (&#8220;white paper&#8221;) para poner presi\u00f3n en los medios para su Campa\u00f1a por Salarios Justos, cuya traducci\u00f3n me encargaron como mi primer tarea de voluntario. Al comienzo de la traducci\u00f3n al coreano, tuvimos unos minutos de miscomunicaci\u00f3n sobre el uso del tono para el coreano. El coreano no se puede conjugar pasivamente, por lo cual se debe decidir b\u00e1sicamente entre el -\ud558\ub2e4 (el formal e irrespetuoso) y el -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4  (el informal y  respetuoso) &#8211; hay m\u00e1s tonos, pero estos dos son los b\u00e1sicos. Yo estaba pensado m\u00e1s por el lado de si el tono debiese ser respetuoso o irrespetuoso, por lo cual mi debate estaba por el axis verde-amarillo, y pens\u00e9 que un informe blanco debiera tener un tono respetuoso, por ende mi opci\u00f3n por la -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4. Pero al mismo tiempo hab\u00eda visto que informes y publicaciones nunca ten\u00edan el tono de -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4 sino -\ud558\ub2e4 porque ese era el uso com\u00fan.<\/p>\n<p>Pero mis supervisores estaban m\u00e1s preocupados de si el tono era formal o informal, porque el informe ten\u00eda un tono oficialista, aunque a la vez no tan s\u00f3lido como un informe blanco, pero al medio como fuente para medios de comunicaci\u00f3n. Cuando les expliqu\u00e9 la clase de coyuntura en que estaba, les dije que -\ud558\ub2e4 era como el t\u00fa, mientras que la -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4  era como el usted. (Esto es, siguiendo la axis verde-amarillo) Y ah\u00ed a ellos se les encendi\u00f3 el sem\u00e1foro rojo porque estaban conscientes que &#8220;t\u00fa&#8221; era informal, mientras quer\u00edan un tono formal (&#8220;usted&#8221;, la cual seg\u00fan mi analog\u00eda de respetuoso-irrespetuoso, debiera ser -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4) Me dijeron que quer\u00edan el que sonaba como &#8220;usted&#8221;,  o sea -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>En esa discusi\u00f3n nos pasamos varios minutos, porque yo mismo estaba confundido sobre por qu\u00e9 la percepci\u00f3n del t\u00fa y el \ud558\ub2e4. Al fin me di cuenta que est\u00e1bamos interpretando la significancia del t\u00fa con diferentes est\u00e1ndares (ellos buscando el axis rojo-azul, mientras yo estaba enfocado en el amarillo-verde) Y aunque ellos no quedaron muy convencidos, les expliqu\u00e9 que aunque -\ud558\ub2e4 era irrespetuoso, a la vez era el tono &#8220;formal&#8221; que ellos buscaban.<\/p><\/div>\n<div style=\"float:right;width:42%\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/kiwa.org\">KIWA<\/a>\uc758 \uc0dd\ud65c\uc784\uae08 \ucf10\ud398\uc778 \ubc31\uc11c\ub97c \uc790\ubd09 \uccab \uc77c\uac70\ub9ac\ub85c \ubc88\uc5ed\ud588\ub2e4. \uc774\uac83\uc744 \uc774\uc6a9\ud558\uc5ec \ub9e4\uccb4\ub4e4\uc5d0 \ub300\ud55c \uc601\ud5a5\ub825\uc744 \uac15\ud654\ud558\uc5ec \ub9c8\ucf13 \uc18c\uc720\uc8fc\uc5d0\uac8c \ub300\ud55c \uc555\ub825\uc744 \uacc4\uc18d \ub123\uc73c\ub824\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \uc544\ub2cc\uac00 \uc2f6\ub2e4.  \ud55c\uc871\uc5b4\ub85c \ubc88\uc5ed\ud560 \ub54c \ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\ub4e4\uacfc \uc57d\uac04\uc758 \uc774\uacac\uc774 \uc788\uc5c8\ub294\ub370 \ud55c\uc871\uc5b4\ub294 \uc6d0\ubb38 \uc601\uc5b4\ub098 \uae4c\uc2a4\ub5bc\uc57c\ub178\uc640\ub294 \ub2e4\ub974\uac8c \ub3d9\uc0ac\uac00 passive \ud615\ud0dc\ub97c \ubabb \uc9c0\ub2cc\ub2e4. (\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uae34 \ud55c\ub370 \uc5b4\uc0c9\ud574\uc11c..) \uadf8\ub798\uc11c \uc5b4\ud22c\ub97c \uac00\uc9c0\uac8c \ub418\ub294\ub370 \uae30\ubcf8\uc801\uc73c\ub85c -\ud558\ub2e4 \uc640 -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4, \uc774\ub807\uac8c \ub450 \uac00\uc9c0 \uc5b4\ud22c\ub97c \uc8fc\ub85c \uc4f4\ub2e4. \ub0b4\uac00 \uc54c\uae30\ub85c -\ud558\ub2e4 \ub294 \uacbd\uc5b4\uc774\uba74\uc11c\ub3c4 \uacf5\uc2dd\ubb38\uc11c\/\ub17c\ubb38\/\uc2e0\ubb38\uc5d0\uc11c \ub450\ub8e8 \uc4f0\uc774\uace0 -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4 \ub294 \uc874\uce6d\uc5b4\ud22c\uc774\uba74\uc11c \uc870\uae08 \ub354 \ub290\uc2a8\ud55c \ud14d\uc2a4\ud2b8, \uc774\ub97c \ud14c\uba74 \uc0c1\uc5c5\uc801 \uad11\uace0\ub4f1\uc5d0 \uc4f0\uc778\ub2e4.  \ubc31\uc11c\ub97c \ubc88\uc5ed\ud558\uba70 \uc5b4\ud22c\ub97c \uace0\ub97c\ub54c \uc774\ub7ec\ud55c \uacbd\uce6d\/\uc874\uce6d\uc758 (\ucd08\ub85d\ub178\ub791) \uad00\uacc4\ub97c \uc911\uc810\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uace0\ub824\ud558\uace0 \uc788\uc5c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub7ec\ud55c \uad00\uc810\uc5d0\uc11c \ubcfc \ub54c -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4 \uac00 \uc874\uce6d\uc784\uc73c\ub85c \uc774\uac83\uc744 \uc368\uc57c \ud55c\ub2e4\uace0 \uc0dd\uac01\ud588\uc73c\ub098, \uc544\ubb34\ub798\ub3c4 \uc774\uac83\uc740 \uad11\uace0\uc9c0 \ubcf4\ub2e4\ub294 \uc2e0\ubb38 \uc2ec\uce35 \uae30\uc0ac\uc5d0 \ub354 \uac00\uae4c\uc6c0\uc73c\ub85c -\ud558\ub2e4 \ub110\ub9ac \uc4f0\uc774\ub294 -\ud558\ub2e4 \uc5b4\ud22c\ub97c \uc368\uc57c \ud55c\ub2e4\uace0 \uc0dd\uac01\ud588\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\ub97c \ubd88\ub7ec\uc11c \ubb3c\uc5b4\ubcf4\uae30\ub85c \ud588\ub2e4. \ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\ub294 \ub3d9\ub0a8\uc544\uacc4-\uc544\uba54\ub9ac\uce78\uc774\uc5c8\uc74c\uc73c\ub85c \uc774\ud574\ud558\uae30 \uc27d\uac8c -\ud558\ub2e4 \ud22c\uac00 &#8220;t\u00fa&#8221; (\ub108) \uc774\uace0 -\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4 \ud22c\uac00 &#8220;usted&#8221; (\ub2f9\uc2e0) \uc774\ub77c\uace0 \ube44\uad50\ud574\uc11c \uc124\uba85 \ud574\uc8fc\uc5c8\ub2e4. \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\ub4e4\uc740 \uc774 \ubb38\uc11c\ub97c \uacf5\uc2dd\uc801\uc778 \uc5b4\ud22c\ub85c \ubc88\uc5ed\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc5d0 \ub354 \uad00\uc2ec\uc744 \uae30\uc6b8\uc774\uace0 \uc788\uc5c8\ub2e4. (\ube68\uac15\ud30c\ub791) \uadf8\ub807\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc5d0 \ube44\uacf5\uc2dd\uc801\uc778, \ub610\ub294 \uce90\uc96c\uc5bc\ud55c (informal \uc774\ub77c\ub294 \ub2e8\uc5b4 \uc790\uccb4\uac00 \uc57d\uac04 \uc911\uc758\uc801\uc774\ub2e4) &#8220;t\u00fa&#8221; \uc758 \uc0ac\uc6a9\uc744 \uacbd\uacc4\ud558\uace0 \uacf5\uc2dd\uc801\uc778 &#8220;usted&#8221;\uc5d0 \ud574\ub2f9\ud558\ub294 &#8220;\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4&#8221;\ub97c \uc0ac\uc6a9\ud558\ub77c\uace0 \ucda9\uace0\ud574\uc8fc\uc5c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uba87\ubd84 \ub3d9\uc548 \ubb38\uc81c\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574\uc11c \uac19\uc774 \uc0dd\uac01\ud574 \ubcf8 \ud6c4 \ub0b4\uac00 &#8220;t\u00fa\/usted&#8221;\ub77c\ub294 \ube44\uad50 \ub300\uc0c1\uc744 \uc81c\uc548\ud560 \ub54c \uadf8 \uc5b4\ud22c\uac00 \uc9c0\ub2c8\ub294 \uc758\ubbf8\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \ud5f7\uac08\ub838\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uae68\ub2ec\uc558\ub2e4. \ub098\ub294 \uacbd\uce6d\uc874\uce6d\uc758 \ub300\ub9bd\uc5d0 \uc911\uc810\uc744 \ub450\uace0 \uc788\uc5c8\uc9c0\ub9cc \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \uacf5\uc2dd\ube44\uacf5\uc2dd\uc758 \ub300\ub9bd\uc5d0 \uc911\uc810\uc744 \ub450\uace0 \uc788\uc5c8\uace0, \uce74\uc2a4\ub5bc\uc57c\ub178\uc5d0\uc11c \uacbd\uce6d\uc874\uce6d\uacfc \uacf5\uc2dd\ube44\uacf5\uc2dd\uc740 (\uc5b4\ub290 \uc815\ub3c4 \uc120 \uae4c\uc9c0\ub294) \uc11c\ub85c \ud3c9\ud589\uc744 \ub2ec\ub9ac\uc9c0\ub9cc \ud55c\uc871\uc5b4\uc5d0\uc11c\ub294 \uc11c\ub85c \uad50\ucc28\ud55c\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uc54c\uac8c \ub418\uc5c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub7f0\ub370 \uc774\uac8c \ub9de\ub294\uc9c0 \ubaa8\ub974\uaca0\ub2e4. \uacbd\uce6d\uc774 \uacf5\uc2dd\uc801\uc778 \uc5b4\ud22c\ub77c\ub2c8? \ud639\uc2dc \uae30\uc874 \uc9d1\uad8c \uc138\ub825\uc774 \uc2f8\uac00\uc9c0\uac00 \uc5c6\uac8c \uad74\uc5b4\uc11c \uadf8\ub807\uac8c \ub418\uc5b4\ubc84\ub9b0\uac83 \uc544\ub2cc\uc9c0 \ubaa8\ub974\uaca0\ub124.\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No s\u00e9 por qu\u00e9, pero el texto que sigue a continuaci\u00f3n del esquema s\u00f3lo no se ve correctamente en IE. (al parecer el primer p\u00e1rrafo desaparece tras la imagen) \uc774\uc720\ub294 \ud30c\uc545\uc774 \uc548 \ub418\uace0 \uc788\uc9c0\ub9cc \ucc28\ud2b8 \ub2e4\uc74c\uc5d0 \ub098\uc624\ub294 \uae00\uc740 IE \uc5d0\uc11c \uc62c\ubc14\ub974\uac8c \ud45c\uc2dc\uac00 \uc548 \ub428. (\uccab \ubb38\ub2e8\uc774 \uc774\ubbf8\uc9c0 \ub4a4\ub85c \ubc00\uccd0\ub098\ub294 \ub4ef) En KIWA sacaron un informe [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13,35,38,41],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-668","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-front","category-translation","category-work","category-cr"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=668"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8986,"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668\/revisions\/8986"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=668"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=668"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/b.yokim.net\/ko\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=668"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}